My two cents: "but for" your input to the AI intermediary that "makes" your art, but for your experiences and the furnishings of your mind, this image of the sleeping troll would not exist. Is that art? Well, yes. You were instrumental in causing it to happen. My inputs would generate a different picture. I think you can call that art - you are just another example of homo sapiens using tools.
The problem with the definition of art is not new and largely excess the AI issue. The key to me is that we use the word art more like an expression of value than a technical calification.
Hardly ever we use art for literature, or for handicrafts even when some are really amazing. I dare to say Duchamp and the ready mades are a far more problematic for our idea of art. The equivalent would be publishing the unprocessed data base of an AI.
The real question is what do we want to be art? what do we want to treat as art? And the answer is there is no agreement and there will never be.
Is the AI production art to me? No. It doesn't work as art for me, because it lacks the personal expression i want to see, the testimony of some feeling. It is a handicraft, a very cool and sometimes beautiful product. Nature is beautiful, but it is not art.
Now, this is a personal opinion. I like impressionism, but i don't like hyperealism. I like when i can see the footprint of the technique, the mark of style, etc.
But at the same time i think the black square of Kazimir Malévich is art. Is a black box! But there is something so human in the history of how it comes to be.
The art is not the object per se, the object is the medium for the art, the art is th human comunication, for which i think some mediums are better. (again, to me, that is my criteria, it works for me).
There will be a point in which a person could show me 2 images, one of a AI and one of a human artist and i will never be able to tell which one is AI. Pretty sure anyone can paint a black box. And how many forgeries we have that are amazing. But i don't want algorythms, i want human comunication, from the very deep of our hearts and minds.
That is what i want art to be. (again, me, just me)
The technical and moral problems of scrap and AI art is another issue.
My two cents: "but for" your input to the AI intermediary that "makes" your art, but for your experiences and the furnishings of your mind, this image of the sleeping troll would not exist. Is that art? Well, yes. You were instrumental in causing it to happen. My inputs would generate a different picture. I think you can call that art - you are just another example of homo sapiens using tools.
The problem with the definition of art is not new and largely excess the AI issue. The key to me is that we use the word art more like an expression of value than a technical calification.
Hardly ever we use art for literature, or for handicrafts even when some are really amazing. I dare to say Duchamp and the ready mades are a far more problematic for our idea of art. The equivalent would be publishing the unprocessed data base of an AI.
The real question is what do we want to be art? what do we want to treat as art? And the answer is there is no agreement and there will never be.
Is the AI production art to me? No. It doesn't work as art for me, because it lacks the personal expression i want to see, the testimony of some feeling. It is a handicraft, a very cool and sometimes beautiful product. Nature is beautiful, but it is not art.
Now, this is a personal opinion. I like impressionism, but i don't like hyperealism. I like when i can see the footprint of the technique, the mark of style, etc.
But at the same time i think the black square of Kazimir Malévich is art. Is a black box! But there is something so human in the history of how it comes to be.
The art is not the object per se, the object is the medium for the art, the art is th human comunication, for which i think some mediums are better. (again, to me, that is my criteria, it works for me).
There will be a point in which a person could show me 2 images, one of a AI and one of a human artist and i will never be able to tell which one is AI. Pretty sure anyone can paint a black box. And how many forgeries we have that are amazing. But i don't want algorythms, i want human comunication, from the very deep of our hearts and minds.
That is what i want art to be. (again, me, just me)
The technical and moral problems of scrap and AI art is another issue.