Also: why modern left-liberalism isn't concerned with consistent principles, which helps explain why the movement's values seem so strange to someone like your humble narrator.
The Cosby case is far from as clear as you paint it. Cosby was freed by a press release. There was no formal agreement btw Cosby’s attorneys and the DA at the time to not prosecute in exchange for him not using the 5th in the civil suit that followed. The next DA decided to prosecute and he was convicted in part because of the nightmarish statements he made in that suit. It’s beyond absurd to suggest the second prosecutor broke the law. Absolutely no one but you makes that claim. Then you use a no name comedian with 69k followers as some sort of paragon of the left in order to bash some imagined boogie man.
The thing is, you know why people are pissed. I get the argument for Cosby but I don’t buy it. What happened here isn’t justice. What happened with Floyd isn’t justice. That’s why people are pissed. And you know this. Then to suggest the folks who want Cosby in jail are the same that want nonviolent or long term drug convicts released and thus should be happy or are hypocrites is kinda gross. You’re too good a writer for this stuff.
I dunno man. The left seems awfully hungry for blood lately. And it seems very much whenever it suits them politically, rather than a matter of principle, both in terms of blood sport and what abolition or police reform ought to look like. This is my problem with my brethren on the left. They are quick to censor, quick to dogpile, quick to cancel, quick to convict, quick to punish, quick to banish.
As for Cosby, it's a complicated case. Neither you nor I are as savvy about the legal stuff as the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, I'd wager. Their argument seems solid. If I made a deal with a prosecutor that gave me immunity from prosecution in exchange for my testimony and then they just threw that out and used said testimony to convict me...I wouldn't call that justice either. Maybe they shouldn't have made that deal to begin with, but what's done is done.
I think there is a TON of hypocrisy on the left these days. I encounter it all the time. I call it out because it's what I'd expect from right-wing hacks, not people who claim such devotion to the truth.
But I do appreciate you putting the pressure on me. I can do better myself, I agree, and something this touchy...maybe I should do more research before posting. I will take it to heart.
I don't think it's all that mysterious, why people are so angry about Cosby. He raped people and got away with it for a long time, now got to be free again. It's easy, some people do bad things and others will get pissed and want to see them punished for it. Sometimes it's easier to punish people by cheating the rules a little bit (or a lot) and since people usually don't care much about rules, or do not fully understand the rules, they will value the punishment more than they value the rules being broken. Take this too far, and you become an example of that one famous Nietzsche quote.
Of course you can also say that Cosby is unlikely to be dangerous at 80+, in the condition he's in. But you have to wonder why it's so difficult to convict him, and perhaps that difficulty is something it's OK to be angry about.
The Cosby case is far from as clear as you paint it. Cosby was freed by a press release. There was no formal agreement btw Cosby’s attorneys and the DA at the time to not prosecute in exchange for him not using the 5th in the civil suit that followed. The next DA decided to prosecute and he was convicted in part because of the nightmarish statements he made in that suit. It’s beyond absurd to suggest the second prosecutor broke the law. Absolutely no one but you makes that claim. Then you use a no name comedian with 69k followers as some sort of paragon of the left in order to bash some imagined boogie man.
The thing is, you know why people are pissed. I get the argument for Cosby but I don’t buy it. What happened here isn’t justice. What happened with Floyd isn’t justice. That’s why people are pissed. And you know this. Then to suggest the folks who want Cosby in jail are the same that want nonviolent or long term drug convicts released and thus should be happy or are hypocrites is kinda gross. You’re too good a writer for this stuff.
I dunno man. The left seems awfully hungry for blood lately. And it seems very much whenever it suits them politically, rather than a matter of principle, both in terms of blood sport and what abolition or police reform ought to look like. This is my problem with my brethren on the left. They are quick to censor, quick to dogpile, quick to cancel, quick to convict, quick to punish, quick to banish.
As for Cosby, it's a complicated case. Neither you nor I are as savvy about the legal stuff as the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, I'd wager. Their argument seems solid. If I made a deal with a prosecutor that gave me immunity from prosecution in exchange for my testimony and then they just threw that out and used said testimony to convict me...I wouldn't call that justice either. Maybe they shouldn't have made that deal to begin with, but what's done is done.
I think there is a TON of hypocrisy on the left these days. I encounter it all the time. I call it out because it's what I'd expect from right-wing hacks, not people who claim such devotion to the truth.
But I do appreciate you putting the pressure on me. I can do better myself, I agree, and something this touchy...maybe I should do more research before posting. I will take it to heart.
Intellectual honesty is a vital but rare attribute.
Few of us are completely honest and that is with time to reflect.
Imagine how often most of us instinctively jump to the wrong conclusion.
I am a believer in the old style liberal education; it is a great training ground for reflection and analysis.
Unfortunately modern universities are losing their way.
Very true.
"guilty people have rights."
... we all like laws when we don't have to worry about them... then, when we do (are forced to), we worry about just the parts that make us feel good.
lol.
Ain't it the truth.
I don't think it's all that mysterious, why people are so angry about Cosby. He raped people and got away with it for a long time, now got to be free again. It's easy, some people do bad things and others will get pissed and want to see them punished for it. Sometimes it's easier to punish people by cheating the rules a little bit (or a lot) and since people usually don't care much about rules, or do not fully understand the rules, they will value the punishment more than they value the rules being broken. Take this too far, and you become an example of that one famous Nietzsche quote.
Of course you can also say that Cosby is unlikely to be dangerous at 80+, in the condition he's in. But you have to wonder why it's so difficult to convict him, and perhaps that difficulty is something it's OK to be angry about.